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 | Sujet: Re: Armée Sud-Africaine Mer 5 Nov - 13:00 | |
| quel avenir pour le Rooivalk ? | Citation: | Denel and Government Discuss Rooivalk Issues
Oct 30, 2008 Andy Nativi and Douglas Barrie/Aviation Week & Space Technology South African defense manufacturer Denel and the government are trying to hammer out a deal to secure the future of the air force's Rooivalk attack helicopter. The fate of the program has been the source of considerable speculation.
Delivery of the 12 production helos was completed in 2004, but the Rooivalk has arguably never fully entered into operational service. The helicopters are at differing standards of equipment fit, and component obsolescence is an issue. From the outset, low operational availability and training issues hampered the introduction of the type.
Denel's 2008 annual report, published this month, noted that the South African cabinet had agreed "that Rooivalk should be certified to meet the revised functionality within the existing allocated financial resources." The "revised functionality" referred to a less capable weapon system that would still allow the platform to meet the military's requirement for an armed helicopter.
Concerning the key issues, the report notes: "The primary challenges facing Denel in meeting its obligations are linked to the extended period over which the program has been executed, particularly in light of technological advancements made in the aviation industry. The required skills base to complete the final technical milestones has been eroded substantially, thus adding further pressure on the delivery timelines Denel set aside 680 million rands ($67 million) to cover completion of the program in 2004-05; the remaining balance is 385 million rands.
At the recent Air Show South Africa, European and South African industry sources said there remains considerable sensitivity regarding the whole Rooivalk program and the potential risk associated with the long-term sustainability of the type. European helicopter manufacturers are watching developments closely to see if an export opportunity could arise, while local company ATE could also provide alternatives to the Rooivalk. ATE's Mil Mi-24 Mk. 3 upgrade program for the Hind was preferred by Algeria to the Rooivalk, which was also on offer.
South Africa has been pursuing an export sale of the type for more than a decade. It came closest to securing a launch customer with Malaysia in the mid-1990s, though as recently as 2007 it was competing--unsuccessfully--to meet Turkey's requirement for an attack helicopter.
Denel is now due to deliver the revised baseline standard of helicopter with a "scaled-down weapon system" later this year. A failure to do so would incur penalties. The nature of the change in weapon system fit has yet to be ascertained. The Rooivalk has a cannon, can carry rocket pods, and is also intended as a platform for Denel Dynamics' Mokopa laser-guided anti-tank missile.
The Mokopa remains in development, though series production is anticipated in 2009. The Mokopa has also been specified by the South African Navy for integration on its AgustaWestland Super Lynx 300 maritime helicopters. The missile has a stated range of 10 km. (6.2 mi.) and is fitted with a high-explosive anti-tank warhead. Other multirole warheads are also being considered, as have alternative seekers including imaging infrared and millimeter-wave radar.
Denel states in the annual report that it "is committed to meeting the milestones as directed by the cabinet." However, it cautions this will "require the full support of [arms agency] Armscor and the Department of Defense to execute the revised mandate. Once achieved, this technical baseline should be maintained for a period of five years. In light of the presently assigned life of the Rooivalk system, the existing contractual terms and conditions will require revision."
Financial responsibility for rectifying problems that may emerge with the Rooivalk during its service life also has to be determined, according to the Denel report. The company admits that "it has rectified certain latent defects in subsystems," but warns that no agreement has been reached on how such problems should be dealt with in the future. The manufacturer has proposed transferring financial risk to the customer. This issue is now under discussion.
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 | Sujet: Re: Armée Sud-Africaine Mer 5 Nov - 23:21 | |
| Plus je réfléchis au Rooivalk, plus je me dis que c'est un sacré gaspillage. imaginez un Rooivalk surblindé et avec des turbines russes ? Attendu les liens qui se resserent entre les deux puissances se serait interessant ? Les deux hélicos seraient dans des gammes de prix sensiblement différentes, donc pas de canibalisme entre eux . le Rooivalk coutant plus cher bien sur. Et puisque l'économie de l'Afrique du Sud en général subit des problèmes et son industrie militaire en particulier, si quelqu'un passait par là pour financer un tel projet , ce serait pas mal. Je pense que cela aurait de bons débouchés. Qu'est ce qui a fait foirrer la vente du Rooivalk ? Comme l'a dit un membre turque, c'est ses moteurs qui ont bloqué. Si jamais y'a un moteur qui est étudié par les firmes russes, pour le compte d'une joint venture, ayant les droits de l'ensemble du processsus, cela rassureait probablement les clients potentiels et cela leverait tout veto pour un contrat. Ou alors, peut etre que ce qui a été utilisé pour le Rooivalk se retrouvera dans un autre projet. A esperer que cela soit interessant pour nous, tres interessant meme. Ce serait dommage que l'industrie sud africaine se fasse bouffer par les puissances ayant soutenu l'Apartheid. Si jamais elle bénéficiait à une puissance ayant combattu l'Apartheid (l'Algérie) ce serait alors formidable : un double pied de nez aux coloniaux en ayant bénéficié de leurs savoir faire, injecté du temps de la période de l'Apartheid. Rien que pour ca, ca vaut le coup. _________________  |
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 | Sujet: Re: Armée Sud-Africaine Mar 16 Déc - 13:27 | |
| | Citation: | Explosive arms deal documents
PAUL KIRK
JOHANNESBURG - Former President Thabo Mbeki, the man who was in overall charge of the arms deal, favoured arms merchants known for their tendency to pay bribes and then agreed to pay inflated prices for equipment that the military simply did not want.
Damning documents obtained by The Citizen last week show that Mbeki ignored his own experts who had ruled that a rival Spanish warship offered better military value than the exorbitantly expensive German product the Navy eventually bought. :idea:
The contract should therefore have been awarded to the Spanish who convincingly won the frigate contract using the procurement formula the Department of Defence had agreed upon.
Mbeki has never launched any action for defamation against the media who published claims that he pocketed a $20 million bribe from the German frigate consortium. These claims were first made in a report compiled by US- based risk-analysis company Kroll.
Kroll had obtained this information from a senior National Intelligence Agency official, who subsequently died in a car crash.
The documents may well open the way for Spanish company Bazan to launch legal action against the state. However, The Citizen has not been able to contact Bazan's representatives....Entre d'autres choses parce que bazan n'existe pas déjà
By awarding the contract to the Germans, Mbeki ignored the Constitution, which lays down that procurement must be done in a way that is fair, transparent and cost-effective.
Terry Crawford-Browne, the SA president of Economists Allied for Arms Reduction, told The Citizen that he was studying the documents.
Crawford-Browne said: "It's clear that throughout the deal we favoured people who were known to pay bribes. What people must realise is that prices are inflated in order to cover the costs of bribes. The taxpayer pays for corruption, not the arms merchant."
Former chairman of the Standing Committee on Public Accounts (Scopa), Gavin Woods, said that while serving as chair of Scopa he had seen clear evidence that the arms dealers who had won contracts as part of the controversial arms deal had inexplicably inflated their prices when supplying equipment to the SANDF.
Woods said: "The government has thus far tried its best to whitewash the arms deal, but I don't believe they have succeeded. These latest documents simply prove serious irregularities in yet another aspect of the arms deal."€Â
Woods resigned as chair of Scopa after the ANC used its parliamentary majority to prevent the Heath Special Investigating Unit from being part of the arms deal probe.
The unit, chaired by Judge Willem Heath, was the sole law enforcement body that had the legal powers to set aside the arms deal contracts that had already been signed.
During the acquisition process for the jet fighters and trainers for the South African Air Force, the recommendations of the SAAF were ignored and former Defence Minister Joe Modise forced the SAAF to buy BAe jet trainers rather than the cheaper Italian aircraft the SAAF actually wanted.
Modise also forced the SAAF to buy Gripen fighters despite the fact that they had no need for them. The existing Cheetah C fighters had just been taken into service and were scheduled to remain in use for at least another decade.
These aircraft have now all been effectively grounded as the SAAF, crippled by the acquisition costs of the Gripen and Hawk, cannot afford to operate their only supersonic fighter jet. Effectively, South Africa has no air force at present.
Fana Hlongwane was, at the time of the Hawk and Gripen deals, Modise's special advisor and close personal friend. Hlongwane was the subject of a series of search-and-seizure raids earlier this month when the Scorpions raided his homes and offices seeking evidence of arms deal bribery.
Hlongwane owns a fleet of luxury cars and several mansions, all purchased after BAe won the Hawk and Gripen contracts.
The documents obtained by The Citizen show that the German warships offered slightly better military performance than the much cheaper Spanish ship, which was ruled to have "the best mobility, operability, growth potential, layout, accommodation and habitability features".
In June 2008 an SA Navy legal services report was leaked to the media showing that the navy was not able to operate the exorbitantly expensive German frigates because of financial constraints.
Andrew Feinstein, the ANC representative on Scopa, was demoted by his party after backing Woods and demanding that the Heath Unit probe the deal.
Feinstein said: "It seemed to me that we favoured those who were prepared to pay the biggest bribes, regardless of the real value of the equipment." |
http://www.citizen.co.za/index/article.aspx?pDesc=85294,1,22[/quote]
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| ATE Land Vehicle Division a été demantelé | Citation: | Land Vehicle Division
The ATE Group has decided to concentrate its activities in Aviation Products and hence to close non-core business activities such as the Land Vehicle Division. In parallel, a new Aviation Division has been started where investments in resources from the ATE Group can be better optimized.
Division Véhicules
Le Groupe ATE a decidé de concentrer ses activités dans les produits d’aviation et, par consequent, a fermé les activités qui ne font pas partie de ce domaine comme la Division Véhicules. En parallèle, une nouvelle division a été crée, la Division d’Aviation, où les investissements du Groupe ATE peuvent être mieux optimisés
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http://www.ate-aerospace-group.com/popnews.php?id=94
le groupe de defense qui nous est si sympathique prefère se concentrer sur l'aeronautique et apparement il y aurait un Algerien aux commandes ( un transfuge de l'AAF ?)
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| Citation: | A New Adventure in ATE
ATE is starting a new Aviation Division based in its Aix-en-Provence establishment. This Division will be headed by Mr. Boussad Ameur, our Chief Aircraft Designer, and will operate under the Fixed Wing structure of the ATE Group. The ‘SAPHIR’, a very new and innovative project for light civilian aircraft, will naturally be nurtured from within this division. ATE and its management are very pleased to have this opportunity to concentrate on its core business of Aviation Products.
UNE NOUVELLE AVENTURE POUR ATE La Division Aviation du Groupe ATE, tout récemment créée en Novembre 2008, est née de l’esprit insufflé par les pères fondateurs du Groupe qui souhaitent recentrer ATE dans l’aéronautique, sa vocation originelle. Cette division, travaillant en collaboration étroite avec la Division Fixed Wing, aura en charge l’étude, la fabrication et la commercialisation d’avions de conception innovante. En coopération avec certains cadres du Groupe depuis une dizaine d’années, le concepteur principal du produit, Mr Ameur, a souhaité s’adosser à un groupe aéronautique pour conforter la pérennité de son activité. La volonté du Groupe ATE d’affirmer sa vocation aéronautique a fait le reste et a conduit à la création de cette nouvelle Division. La Division Aviation est basée à Aix –en-Provence. Le développement de cette activité dans la région PACA est un choix stratégique du Groupe et sera, nous en sommes sûrs, générateur d’emplois.
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 | Sujet: Re: Armée Sud-Africaine Sam 28 Fév - 20:52 | |
| l'armée sud africaine est elle "meilleur" que celle de l'algerie? en therme de qualité du materiel et de la formation du personel? _________________ '"Nous devons nous méfier d’une influence non justifiée, qu’elle soit voulue ou non, par le complexe militaro-industriel. Le risque d’un accroissement funeste des abus de pouvoir existe et persistera. Ne laissons jamais le poids de ce complexe mettre en danger nos libertés ou notre démocratie."
17 janvier 1961, le président Eisenhower a propos du lobby militaro-industriel aux USA.
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