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sukhoi33
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|  Sujet: Re: Su-30MKA en Algérie  Mer 23 Juil - 13:49 | |
| Hye mariwoj63, happy to see you here   i think Fulcrum can help you, when he 'll read your message |
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anzar
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| | Sujet: Re: Su-30MKA en Algérie Mer 23 Juil - 13:55 | |
| It is a real pleasure to welcome you on board mariusz
Your web page and your profil of Su-30MKA are amazing.
To give you an idea about the number of planes and thier deployment you can visit the pages in appropriate topic on the forum
For the moment algeria received 8 to 10 Su-30MKA. they are in test and validation trial in Oum El-Bouaki Air Base.
For the Mig-29S, a precise estimation is difficult. But some informations and websites indicates a number of 54 S (Fulcrum C) and 14 UB still in service. Their most important localisation is Bousfer Air Base.
More information about air bases and units here
http://www.algaf.bravehost.com/index.htm
http://www.scramble.nl/dz.htm
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mariwoj63
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| | Sujet: Re: Su-30MKA en Algérie Jeu 24 Juil - 9:30 | |
| Merci bien.
I will be watching internet sources (esp. russian) about deliveries of the Sukhois to Algerie. I hope You should have more luck with Sukhoi than with MiG.
In profiles of Su-30MKA some correction was made last night, so You can check at http://www.mars.slupsk.pl/fort/sukhoi.
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FULCRUM
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| | Sujet: Re: Su-30MKA en Algérie Jeu 24 Juil - 13:47 | |
| Great work mariwoj63!! Thanks for your interest on our Flankers
Algeria have certainly more than 12 SU-30 right now but we don't have much more informations about units operating them. Maybe a new wing will be create or the planes will be use under the 3rd ADW??
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RIO35
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| | Sujet: Re: Su-30MKA en Algérie Jeu 24 Juil - 17:11 | |
| | Citation: | Thales Damocles multifunction targeting pod (France), Airborne systems - Ground attack - Integrated systems - Fixed-wing
The Thales Damocles is a multimode, multifunction targeting pod, following on from the ATLIS II (qv) and CLDP (qv) before it. It was developed for use by the Mirage 2000 and Rafale multirole fighters. The system entered flight test during 2000 and has been demonstrated on the Mirage 2000D (in 1998) and Super Etendard Modernisé (SEM). It is now in service with French Navy SEM carrier-based strike aircraft (15 pods delivered 2002-03) and integration on the Rafale-M is progressing. The French Air Force is expected to procure Damocles for its Rafale F3 version due in 2009 but not its Mirage 2000D aircraft, as it has useable quantities of earlier ATLIS II and CLDP available.Damocles is also marketed as a combined system with a Navigation FLIR (NAVFLIR) housed in the underwing pylon which carried the Damocles pod, thus occupying only a single weapon station. The United Arab Emirates (UAE) has ordered this configuration to equip its Mirage 2000-9 fighters, where Damocles is known as Shehab and the NAVFLIR as Nahar. Malaysia is adopting a similar configuration for its Su-30MKM fighters. |
SOURCE : http://www.janes.com/extracts/extract/jeos/jeos1057.html
CECI DIT QUE LE TRUC SUR LA PHOTO DE FULCRUM (MKM) EST TRES PROBABLEMENT UN NAVFLIR AU QUEL ON PEUT RATACHER LE POD DAMOCLES AU DESSOUS
| Citation: | Thales Group in Russia
Few Western companies can boast of the same experience of broad and productive cooperation with Russian aerospace and defense enterprises as the Thales Group of France.
Thomson-CSF, the precursor to Thales, entered the Soviet market in the 1970s with the delivery of several aviation trainers to the Ilyushin design bureau. With the end of the Cold War, many new areas of bilateral cooperation emerged, and the equipping of Russian aircraft with advanced French avionics was one of the most promising ones. Through the 1990s, Thomson-CSF participated in a range of such projects, including thermal imagers and multifunctional displays for the new Ka-52 attack helicopter, and radio navigational equipment for the advanced MiG-AT trainer aircraft.
However, Thales reached a qualitatively new level of relations with Russian firms through its participation in the Su-30MKI project. The Indian Air Force made it a condition of their purchase that the fighters be equipped with French avionics. In particular, the Su-30MKI was equipped with Thales multifunctional liquid crystal displays. The resulting vehicle, combining the maneuverability of a Russian fighter with the quality of French avionics, quickly proved itself on international markets.
When Malaysia decided to purchase the Su-30MKI for the first time, the Malaysian Air Force requested that the vehicle be equipped with another Thales product: the Damocles multifunction targeting pod. To fill this order, designers from Sukhoi and Thales specialists had to work through 2006 – 2007 to integrate the French system with the aviation electronics.
The high combat qualities demonstrated by Damocles during testing attracted the attention of an unexpected customer: the Russian Ministry of Defense, and Thales is now negotiating technology transfer agreements and full localization of Damocles production in Russia. If these negotiations prove successful, Damocles will be the first Western defense technology in a very long time to have been licensed for Russian production. The decision to purchase foreign technology was controversial, since Russian design bureaus were developing an analogous device. However, the superior combat qualities and the fact that the French product was already in series production tilted the issue in its favor. The production of Damocles in Russia will most likely be established at the Urals Optical Mechanical Plant. Russian aircraft slated to be equipped with the French system include the modernized Su-27SM, Su-24M2 as well as the new Su-35-1 and the Su-34 assault plane.
Aside from Sukhoi, Thales technologies have been installed on other fighting aircraft, like the ship-borne MiG-29K fighter, equipped with the TopSight helmet-mounted sight/display.
Thales’ success in providing Russian aircraft with avionic systems led to cooperation in other areas. In 2005, the Indian Ministry of Defense decided to equip its Russian T-90S tanks with the Catherine FC thermal imager made by Thales. In November 2007, Russia received a new order for 347 tanks from India, and Thales announced at Defexpo 2008 the delivery of 400 Catherine FC units meant primarily for installation on Russian-made tanks.
The thermal imaging devices made by Thales are significantly superior to analogous Russian products, and they endow the T-90 tank with much broader range of applications at night and in any weather conditions. Not surprisingly, the Russian MOD has also expressed its interest in the Catherine FC system. News that Thales and Rosoboronexport had signed an agreement on the delivery of 100 thermal imagers for installation on T-90 tanks for the Russian Ground Forces was made public in mid-2007.
On March 20, 2008, negotiations between Rosoboron-export and Thales were disclosed on the near term joint establishment of servicing centers for thermal imaging devices, and the longer term transfer of technologies and joint production of the Catherine FC in Russia.
Aside from defense programs, Thales participates in several civilian projects in Russia. The Group’s participation in the Sukhoi Superjet100 regional aircraft is key. At the very early stages of this project, Thales was chosen as the supplier and integrator of the Superjet’s avionics systems. The contract for the development and delivery of avionics was signed at Le Bourget in 2005. Thales is responsible for the delivery of the majority of the navigational and piloting equipment, radio communications, equipment panels, and multifunctional displays. In July 2006, the English subsidiary Thales Service signed a contract with Sukhoi Civilian Aircraft to deliver three training systems, including the joint development of a maintenance program. The trainers will be delivered in late 2008 and early 2009.
In May 2006, Thales’ entry into another promising Russian aviation project was announced. The company was selected together with the Russian Transas company to supply avionics for the Mi-38 medium transport helicopter, developed in the framework of the Euromil joint enterprise with the Moscow Mil and Kazan helicopter plants. Thales will supply autopilot systems, navigation and radio communications for the helicopter. The Russian companies involved in the Mi-38 project consider western participation to be important to assist with the certification of the vehicles according to EASA standards and the penetration of external markets.
The Thales Group may also participate in another civilian aviation project: the creation of the MC-21 short- to mid-range airliner.
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The experience of Thales shows that cooperation between large Western and Russian companies can be successful and beneficial when the interests and competitive advantages of each party are made constructively to interact. |
SOURCE : http://mdb.cast.ru/mdb/2-2008/item3/article1/
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T800
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| | Sujet: Re: Su-30MKA en Algérie Jeu 24 Juil - 20:45 | |
| si une bonne ame pouvait m'expliquer l'utilité du schlimblink
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motu
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| | Sujet: Re: Su-30MKA en Algérie Jeu 24 Juil - 21:56 | |
| ça a l'air d'un reflecteur laser.et c'est fixé sur le pylone de bout d'aile d'un flanker.
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| | Sujet: Re: Su-30MKA en Algérie Jeu 24 Juil - 22:00 | |
| a quoi cela peut bien servir...???
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Laigle
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| | Sujet: Re: Su-30MKA en Algérie Jeu 24 Juil - 22:10 | |
| Je crois ( à prendre avec des pincettes) qu'il s'agit d'un ECM.
J'ai vu un MiG 29 équipé d'une barre semblable( je ne me souviens pas avoir vu là dessus, attaché cet objet, mais peut etre n'était il pas visible sur la photo) et c'était écrit en légende qu'il s'agissait d'un pod ECM.
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| | Sujet: Re: Su-30MKA en Algérie Jeu 24 Juil - 22:12 | |
| en tous cas ca illumine...
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| | Sujet: Re: Su-30MKA en Algérie Jeu 24 Juil - 22:34 | |
| en recherchant sur le net , apparement c'est un illuminateur laser qui imite la lueuer de la flamme de depart d'un tir missile
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Strato
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FULCRUM
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| | Sujet: Re: Su-30MKA en Algérie Ven 25 Juil - 1:30 | |
| C'est des équipements d'exercices?? C'est pour simulé des tirs de missiles air-air??
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motu
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| | Sujet: Re: Su-30MKA en Algérie Ven 25 Juil - 9:34 | |
| Disposition inadéquate pour constituer un système de contre mesure permanent,le dispositif est là pour tester quelque chose. soit du brouillage laser soit de la télemetrie pour mesurer la cinématique de l'avion. mais le système en lui meme est trop petit pour embarquer un laser de combat. Je rejoins Fulkrum dans son hypothèse.
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It is really impressive work . 
