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Tout d'abord un article qui date un peu :

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Korea, Algeria to seek cooperation in petrochemical plants, military hardware Date: October 31, 2007 Korea and Algeria seek to expand economic cooperation in the areas of petrochemical plant construction and military hardware, the Seoul government said Wednesday (Oct. 31). The Ministry of Commerce, Industry and Energy said such cooperation could strengthen the countries' two-way trade that reached $1 billion in the first nine months of this year, up from $500 million during the whole of 2005. "Discussions on petrochemical plant investment and wheeled armored vehicles are expected to make headway at the high-level talks planned for later in the day," said a ministry official without going into details. He added that the meeting in southern Seoul between Vice Commerce and Industry Minister Oh Young-ho and Algerian Minister for Business Participation and Investment Promotion Abdelhamid Temmar could open doors for South Korean companies that want to build Algeria's second highway. After a successful summit between their leaders in March 2006, the two countries have moved toward a "strategic partnership" that aims to help Algiers industrialize its economy and attract foreign investment. In a contract that may be worth $4 billion, a Korean consortium led by Daewoo Engineering and Construction Co. has secured priority rights to build a modern city in Algeria. Meanwhile, Samsung Electronics plans to produce 550,000 home appliances for Algeria starting in April. Temmar, who arrived in Seoul on Tuesday with officials from 14 Algerian government agencies, also plans to meet Korean businessmen interested in investing in his country. Algeria, which has 123 million tons of oil reserves, may help South Korean companies gain an important base of operations in North Africa.

http://www.korea.net/news/news/newsView.asp?serial_no=20071031005

et enfin la bonne nouvelle qui va faire des heureux ! :

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Samsung Techwin awaits Algerian armoured vehicle decision South Korean company Samsung Techwin is still hopeful of winning a bid to supply its 6x6 multipurpose wheeled armoured vehicle to Algeria despite an... 19-Nov-2008

http://jdin.janes.com/public/jdin/index.shtml

Spoiler:

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http://www.samsungtechwin.com/prd/pro_view.asp?pro_uid=1634&cat_uid=71&cat_biz=DEP&cat_lev=C





selon l'interview donné à Jane's il s'agirait d'un batch de 500 véhicules d'un coup

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Samsung Techwin awaits Algerian armoured vehicle decision South Korean company Samsung Techwin is still hopeful of winning a bid to supply its 6×6 multipurpose wheeled armoured vehicle to Algeria despite an apparent delay in the programme to procure up to 500 units, the Seoul-based company told Jane’s on 18 November. Jane’s understands that the deal to supply the vehicles is worth at least USD200 million and includes candidates from Germany, China, Russia and South Africa

http://strategicanalysis.wordpress.com/2008/11/22/world-defence-update-8/

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수출부터 시작하게 될 수도 있는 차륜형 장갑차 차륜형 장갑차를 개발하고 있는 국내 3사 중에서 삼성테크윈에서 개발한 차륜형 장갑차가 알제리에서 시험평가를 받고 있다. 이는 지난번 노무현 대통령과 알제리 대통령간의 경제협력차원에서 검토된 내용으로 알제리 정부에서 한국측에서 알제리에 50%를 선투자할 것을 조건으로 한국의 차륜형 장갑차 구입의사를 밝혔기 때문이다. 방위사업청은 알제리에 제안할 차륜형 장갑차를 국내 여러 업체에서 한꺼번에 제시하는 것은 바람직하지 않다고 보았다. 알제리의 선투자 요청이 들어왔을 때 로템과 두산 인프라코어는 알제리 진출의사를 포기하고 삼성테크윈만 알제리의 요청을 받아들여 시험평가 자격을 갖게 된 것이다. 삼성테크윈측이 강력히 거부하고 있는 사실이지만 관련 업체와 담당자들의 말에 의하면 영국산 설계도면을 사용했다고 하는데 설사 그렇다 할지라도 일단 알제리로 진출하게 되면 시간이 지나면서 기술적으로 많은 부분이 극복될 수도 있다고 본다. 원래 차륜형 장갑차 획득사업은 연구개발 획득 무기체계사업이었다. 설계도면이 해외제품이라는 것 때문에 삼성테크윈이 국내 획득시에는 적합하지 않다는 주장이 있었던 것도 사실이다. 2008년 차륜형 장갑차 연구개발 예산이 국방위 최종 결정과 본회의 예결위에서 삭감된다면 한국의 차륜형 장갑차는 한국군 도입보다 해외수출이 먼저 이뤄질 수도 있게 된다. 알제리로 시험평가를 나가지 못하는 것이 현재 업체의 시제로 만든 장갑차가 기술력이 떨어져서가 아니라 알제리에서 요구하는 50% 선투자를 메꿀 수 없기 때문인데 그런 현실적 문제가 실제 차륜형 장갑차의 기술평가시 적용되어 공평하게 이뤄지지 않을 수도 있는 것을 우려하는 시각이 있는 것도 사실이다.

http://www.military.co.kr/bbs/zboard.php?id=search_article&page=1&sn1=&divpage=1&sn=off&ss=on&sc=on&select_arrange=headnum&desc=asc&no=2672&PHPSESSID=dfff6510299444e65377c1ca737827cc

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Can start exporting to the country develops charyunhyeong armored vehicles and armored vehicles charyunhyeong 3 of 4 developed by Samsung Techwin, the charyunhyeong an armored car in Algeria is to receive tests. The previous President Roh Moo-hyun and President of Algeria for Economic Cooperation and patrolled in the South Korea side in the Algerian government in Algeria is subject to 50% seontuja to buy armored vehicles charyunhyeong balhyeotgi of Korea said. Defense Agency projects in Algeria and several companies offer charyunhyeong armored vehicles at once is not desirable to have present. When the request of Algeria seontuja Rotem and Doosan Infracore in Algeria to accept the request of Algeria pogiha samseongtekeuwinman test will have a qualification. Samsung Techwin, a fact which is strongly associated companies and representatives geobuha According to the British used it to design drawings to Algeria, even if that one will advance even if over time may overcome many technical Bondi said. Acquired research and development of the original charyunhyeong armored car business was acquired weapons systems. Foreign products because this is a schematic Samsung claims the country was not suitable for acquisition when it is true. Research and development budget charyunhyeong armored vehicles in 2008 and the final plenary session of the Defense Committee in the cut if yegyeolwi Korea's exports charyunhyeong armored vehicles than the introduction of the Korean troops will first be made. Tests would not go to Algeria now has an armored car company in the technology of the present tense, but this falls to 50% in Algeria can not fill it, that seontujareul realistic evaluation of the problem is applied to the actual armored vehicles charyunhyeong fair can not be made to the fact that time is concerned.

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Export can be started from Charyunhyeong armored vehicles The development of armored vehicles and four domestic charyunhyeong of 3, developed by Samsung Techwin, the Algerian charyunhyeong armored vehicles are in the testing and evaluation. The previous President Roh Moo-hyun and President of Algeria for Economic Cooperation and patrolled in the South Korea side in the Algerian government in Algeria is subject to 50% seontujahal to buy armored vehicles charyunhyeong balhyeotgi of Korea said. Defense business agency in Algeria to suggest charyunhyeong armored vehicles from several companies at once is not desirable to have present. When the request of Algeria seontuja Rotem and Doosan Infracore into the doctor to give up Algeria accepted the request of Algeria samseongtekeuwinman test will have a qualification. Samsung Techwin, a fact which is strongly rejected, according to associated companies and representatives of the British were using it to blueprints to Algeria, even if that's even when a technical over time, could see many geukbokdoel . Acquired research and development of the original charyunhyeong armored car business was acquired weapons systems. Foreign products because this is a schematic Samsung claims the country was not suitable for acquisition when it is true. Research and development budget charyunhyeong armored vehicles in 2008 and the final plenary session of the Defense Committee in the cut if yegyeolwi Korea's exports charyunhyeong armored vehicles than the introduction of the Korean troops will first be made. Tests would not go to Algeria now created a prototype of an armored car company ran out of the technology to 50% in Algeria, but can not fill it, that seontujareul realistic evaluation of the problem is applied to the actual charyunhyeong equally armored vehicles can not work it is time to worry about

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Une Autre traduction du Coréen
Article qui date de la visite de Boutef en 2003

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L'Algérie a récemment commencé à s'intéresser à la Corée de matériel de défense. Président Abdel Aziz butepeulrika visite de 2003 en Corée du Sud ont trouvé un moyen, du Defense Research Institute, Samsung Techwin de début Octobre charyunhyeong des véhicules blindés et de véhicules militaires de Kia Motors, a déclaré l'essai et l'évaluation. Nous avons créé un véhicule militaire, c'est la première fois je suis dans le pays de l'Afrique.

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donc patria passe a la trappe
j'espère juste qu'il y aura une jointe venture pour ce contrat

oui, le sujet date un peu. mais je suis sceptique quant au choix d'un vehicule militaire qui nest en service dasn aucune armée. mmeme l'armee sud coreenne n'a pas encore fait sont choix parmis el model propose pour son appel d'offre de vehicule blindés a Roues.

la marche mondiale n'offre il pas !?? de vrai opportunites, l'afrique de sud, la russie, certain pays d'europe de l'est ou de l'eutrop occidentale offre d'excellent model.

pourquoi aller chercher un model en debut de carrier non encore utilsier, pourquoi pas de patria, de Fuchs, des BTR 4 ou BTR 80 ou que sais je.

je ne sais pas un choix bizarre a mon avis.

arff ! je peux plus voir cette marque (Samsung) depuis que je me suis fait arnaquer avec mon nouveau
portable, le "Samsung Player Style SGH-F480" ...


Sur le papier il a l'air terrible, en réalité il est ultra lent, la résolution vidéo est à chier et je rencontre même
de gros soucis réseaux. Je l'ai acheté neuf sans abonnement au prix fort et maintenant, je suis bien dégouté
J'aurai dû attendre l'IPhone, c'est bien fait pour ma gueule

essaye le samsung 500 6x6 techwin tu m'en dira des nouvelles!

en voit bien que l'anp compte quérir de nouveaux blindés et elle semble prendre son temps pour faire ces choix c'est une bonne chose

toujours d'après Jane's le deal aurait été conclu en Mars 2008 et l'engin aurait été testé ici

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Samsung Techwin targets armoured vehicles deal with Algeria, MARKET INTELLIGENCE South Korean company Samsung Techwin has launched a bid to sell at least 500 of its 6x6 multipurpose wheeled armoured vehicles to Algeria, following recently concluded vehicle trials in the North African country. It is understood that the deal to supply the vehicles is worth at least USD200 million and includes candidates from China, Russia and South Africa, which are more traditional suppliers of defence equipment to Algeria. The Algerian government is expected to make an announcement on its vehicle selection by March 2008.

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sans haine et sans pitié

Je rebondi sur l'intervention d'Isatis

Effectivement l'armée koréenne n'a pas encore fait son choix, il semblerait même que ça soit le Blackfox de doosan qui soit favori

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Wheeled Armored Vehicle (WAV) : Armored Combat Vehicle (6X6, 8X8) Today the Republic of Korea Army (ROK) uses mainly tracked armoured fighting vehicles but has a requirement for a family of 6 x 6 and 8 x 8 wheeled armoured fighting vehicles. The South Korean Army plans to deploy about 2,000 advanced wheeled armored vehicles beginning around 2013 to build rapid-response brigades modeled after U.S. Stryker combat brigades. The plan is a core part of the Army's efforts to transform itself into a slimmer but more mobile, network-centric force with increased firepower under the Defense Reform 2020 initiative with its operational focus shifting from a North Korean invasion to a counteroffensive or other forms of offensive action into North Korea. In the case of an emergency on the Korean Peninsula, wheeled armored vehicle brigades will play a leading role in advancing into North Korea, neutralizing key enemy targets, stabilizing North Korean society in captured areas or securing humanitarian aid, while mechanized divisions and corps consisting of sophisticated tanks, infantry fighting vehicles and other artillery back them up. The procurement program is scheduled to begin by 2010 to equip the Army with about 2,000 high-tech wheeled armored vehicles. Hyundai Rotem, Doosan Infracore and Samsung Techwin are competing for the program. The companies are offering to sell their six-wheel armored vehicles with an average per-unit price tag of 600 to 800 million won, while the price is expected to go up depending on what weapons systems and equipment are to be installed on the vehicles. In addition to the Doosan Armored Wheeled Family (AWV) known as Black Fox, two other ROK contractors have also designed and built 6 x 6/8 x 8 wheeled vehicles to meet the potential requirements of the ROK Army. These are Rotem (with the KW1 6 x 6 and KW2 8 x and Samsung Techwin (Multipurpose vehicle). The first prototypes of the Doosan AWV Black Fox were completed in 2003. Doosan is known mainly as the prime contractor for the full tracked Korean Infantry Fighting Vehicle (KIFV) which has already been exported to Malaysia. In many respects, the overall appearance of the Doosan Armoured Wheeled Vehicle is very similar to the Brazilian EE-11 Urutu (6 × 6) armoured personnel carrier developed some years ago by ENGESA.The major difference is that the Brazilian vehicle has steering on the front two wheels with the rear wheels being close together, whereas the Doosan Armoured Wheeled Vehicle has steering on the front four wheels.

Les 3 prétendants au contrat :

Doosan Black Fox



Rotem Hyundaï



Techwin Samsung

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C peut ètre un HS mais une filiale de Isaad Rebrab collabore déja avec samsung avec une usine de montage de téléviseurs.... bref

si il est assemblé en Algérie...pkoi pas sa va mettre un coup de jeune aux unités motorisés

anzar les 3 models se ressemblent beaucoup!!!

Comme on dit, la fonction fait l'organe (ici je dirais le blindé )

moi je dis que le btr-90 est mille foi mieu et bouteflika le sais dejat est je dis que se contrat sé juste pour nouer des contacte pour d'aure armesss plus sofistiqué et plus lourd comme comme les missiles balistique dang1 a.b.d ex..
boof rien a voire avec le btr-80 que nous avons et plutard les 90 inchalah

hadj slimane, arrête de flooder...

Les No-Dong sont de fabrication nord coréenne, ici on parle de blindés à 6 roues de Samsung. Si tu dis que le BTR-90 est meilleur apporte des arguments autres que "boof rien à voire" on est pas sur un chat ici on échange des infos utiles.

Donc à chaque intervention on doit fournir :

Un argumentaire + une source + lien vers un article si besoin et bien sûr faire un effort pour que ça soit lisible.

Ce sont les règles de base pour échanger sur ce forum (lire la charte à ce propos)

ok désolé mon frere mais je vé faire des effort merci