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MessageSujet: Re: Eurofighter Typhoon !   Lun 14 Avr - 15:35

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Avions de combat: Eurofighter renonce en Norvège et au Danemark




OSLO - Le consortium européen Eurofighter a annoncé lundi avoir définitivement renoncé à soumettre une offre à la Norvège et au Danemark pour le renouvellement de leurs avions de combat, jugeant la procédure biaisée en faveur de l'appareil américain Joint Strike Fighter (JSF).

Le retrait de l'Eurofighter, construit par un consortium regroupant EADS, le britannique BAE Systems et l'italien Alenia/Finmeccanica, laisse le champ libre à deux autres avions, le JSF et le suédois Gripen, dans ces pays qui prévoient de commander jusqu'à 48 appareils chacun pour plusieurs milliards d'euros.

"Nous ne soumettrons pas d'offre pour des raisons évidentes", a déclaré à l'AFP Wolfdietrich Hoeveler, porte-parole d'Eurofighter en Allemagne, à l'approche de la date limite du 28 avril donnée par le gouvernement norvégien aux constructeurs.

"Même chose au Danemark", a-t-il ajouté.

En décembre, Eurofighter avait annoncé la suspension de sa participation aux programmes norvégien et danois pour protester contre des changements dans les procédures et un calendrier qui, selon le groupe européen, favorise l'avion construit par l'américain Lockheed Martin.

Mais le consortium avait laissé la porte entrouverte pour un retour dans la compétition à un stade ultérieur.

"Nous n'allons pas forcer qui que ce soit à nous vendre des avions: quand nous nous disons prêts à dépenser plusieurs dizaines de milliards de couronnes, nous imaginons que cela suscite de l'intérêt parmi les constructeurs", a réagi le ministre adjoint de la Défense norvégien, Espen Barth Eide.

"La porte reste ouverte pour Eurofighter mais le 28 avril est une date cruciale", a-t-il dit à l'AFP.

Tous deux membres de l'Otan, la Norvège et le Danemark doivent se prononcer l'an prochain sur l'appareil qui remplacera leurs F-16 --de construction américaine-- vieillissants.

Selon les médias norvégiens citant un responsable de Saab, le groupe suédois partiellement détenu par BAE Systems pense pouvoir offrir son appareil à un prix deux fois moindre que le JSF qui accumule les retards et les surcoûts.

(©AFP / 14 avril 2008 17h21)

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MessageSujet: Re: Eurofighter Typhoon !   Dim 20 Avr - 19:05

Fenrir a écrit:
Et non, le Typhoon est legerment plus grand avec des réacteurs plus puissant que le Rafale.
C'est pas une histoire de taille mais de configuration...
http://avions.legendaires.free.fr/comparateur.php?comp1=rafale&comp2=ef2000
Il y a une erreur: la charge offensive du Rafale est à 9.5 tonnes.

Pour la Turquie: normal qu'elle n'achete pas francais, c'est un tres bon toutou des americains niveau avion.

c'est vrai que la turquie n'acheterait pas français pour des raisons évidentes; la france refuse l'adhésion de la turquie à l'union européenne. la question c'est pour quoi? parceque la turquie, démographiquement plus puissante que la france aurait plus de députés au seins de l'union eurpéenne.
la turquie serait dans ce cas là parmi les pays les plus puissants de l'union
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MessageSujet: Re: Eurofighter Typhoon !   Dim 20 Avr - 19:31

aspirant a écrit:
Fenrir a écrit:
Et non, le Typhoon est legerment plus grand avec des réacteurs plus puissant que le Rafale.
C'est pas une histoire de taille mais de configuration...
http://avions.legendaires.free.fr/comparateur.php?comp1=rafale&comp2=ef2000
Il y a une erreur: la charge offensive du Rafale est à 9.5 tonnes.

Pour la Turquie: normal qu'elle n'achete pas francais, c'est un tres bon toutou des americains niveau avion.

c'est vrai que la turquie n'acheterait pas français pour des raisons évidentes; la france refuse l'adhésion de la turquie à l'union européenne. la question c'est pour quoi? parceque la turquie, démographiquement plus puissante que la france aurait plus de députés au seins de l'union eurpéenne.
la turquie serait dans ce cas là parmi les pays les plus puissants de l'union


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MessageSujet: Re: Eurofighter Typhoon !   Mar 2 Déc - 22:08

Article intéressant dans "Flug Revue".. pirat

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Eurofighter: Signature for Tranche 3 gets urgent

Once again the Royal Air Force is leading the way on 10 October it accepted its first Eurofighter Typhoon FGR4 from the second production batch at BAE Systems' Warton plant.The single-seater BS040 and another aircraft were later ferried to RAF Coningsby, where the Royal Air Force's Typhoon fleet is based.

Now that the weapon system has received its international Type Acceptance, granted by the NATO Eurofighter und Tornado Management Agency (NETMA) at the beginning of September, deliveries to the other countries should get under way as well.At any rate the German Defence Ministry was expecting national Type Acceptance for October. Three Tranche 2 Eurofighters are expected to be delivered to the Luftwaffe before the end of this year. This is a few months behind the original schedule, but the military are hoping that the “backlog” caused by the delayed Type Acceptance can be largely caught up over the coming year.

The new Block 8 standard Eurofighters are initially required to bring the first operational unit in Neuburg up to strength, as Fighter Wing 74 is currently having to make do with only ten aircraft. This is due partly to the fact that several Tranche 1 aircraft were relinquished by the Luftwaffe to Austria and partly to ongoing upgrade measures to the Block 5 standard. With 16 trained pilots, FW74 is just able to fulfil the Quick Reaction Alert (QRA) role of protecting the airspace over the south of Germany, which it officially took on in June.

When one considers that the average aircraft availability rate is only 50 percent (this is claimed to be better than other Luftwaffe types), this means that no more than half a dozen Eurofighters are available for flying operations on a daily basis. According to wing commodore Wing Commander Andreas Pfeiffer, four of these are required for the QRA service (two plus two reserves), so that only two are available for other duties. This rules out intensive training in aerial combat, as Pfeiffer lamented during a visit by FLUG REVUE at the beginning of October. Despite this, the QRA aircraft take off twice a day on exercise flights even without being alerted.


It will therefore take some time before FW 74 is able to exploit the full potential of the Eurofighter. Despite the overstretched situation, it is planned that FW 74 will participate in international exercises for the first time in 2009. Twisted Evil Informally, the pilots from Neuburg recently pitted their skills against their French Rafale colleagues in aerial combat. The results were extremely gratifying, the main difference being the much greater thrust of the EJ200 engine. Twisted Evil As far as the pilots are concerned, moreover, the Block 5 standard has brought clear improvements compared with earlier versions of the software. Areas which were previously problematic, such as voice input of commands, now function a lot more reliably.

According to the Luftwaffe's broader plans, Fighter Wing 74 will initially be raised to a strength of 24 Eurofighters before the task of equipping the next unit begins, probably at the end of 2009/beginning of 2010. This will be Fighter Bomber Wing 31 “Boelcke” in Nörvenich, although an air-to-ground precision weapon capability is not expected before 2011/2012. FW 71 in Wittmund and FBW 33 in Büchel are also due to be equipped with the Eurofighter in the course of the next decade.

This presupposes, of course, that Germany goes ahead and buys all 180 aircraft envisaged in the Framework Agreement. So far Luftwaffe and Defence Ministry are strongly defending this figure. However, the SPD left no doubt during the budget debate in the Bundestag in September that in their view, “146 state-of-the-art, dual role-capable fighter aircraft in four units instead of five” was plenty, as MP Hans-Peter Bartels (a member of the Defence Committee) let it be known.

However, such utterances appear totally innocent compared with the urgent wish of the United Kingdom and Italy to reduce their unit numbers in the forthcoming Tranche 3. “Officially no one has yet approached us to alter the figures,” said Eurofighter CEO Aloysius Rauen at the end of September.The consortium's tender has been on the table since June and the contracts have been drawn up as far as possible, so that it is now up to Germany, the UK, Italy and Spain to agree on the way forward. According to Rauen, a contract has to be in place in the first quarter of 2009 at the latest if an expensive production gap is to be avoided.

On the other hand the Eurofighter management are well aware of the need for industry to remain flexible. As long as the delivery periods do not change drastically, it would be feasible to split Tranche 3 into two parts, Rauen has suggested. This idea had been raised for the first time in the summer by the German Secretary of State for Military Procurement, Rüdiger Wolf. Again, Rauen did not rule out the possibility of the partner nations reselling some of their Eurofighters, although, if at all possible they should not get in the way of the ongoing export drives.

The partner companies of EADS, BAE Systems and Alenia are currently busy trying to win further orders in a number of countries beyond their two successes to date, Austria and Saudi Arabia.Key prospects at the moment are India, which has a requirement for 126 aircraft, and Switzerland, which needs up to 33 aircraft.Under the lead of EADS, the Eurofighter is due to demonstrate its prowess in Emmen in November, before the Luftwaffe then appears with the fighter jet at the Bangalore Air Show next February.

Eurofighter also reports “real interest” in a possible 50 aircraft from Japan, which faces a delay of some years before its American F-22's and F-35's will arrive. Romania is looking for 48 new fighters, although it is unlikely to be able to afford anything more than used aircraft. Other potential customers include Bulgaria (15 aircraft), Croatia (12), Turkey (40) and Greece (30).It is difficult to assess what real prospects the Eurofighter has in individual countries. At any rate it did not make it to the final shortlist of three in the Brazilian competition in October, losing out to competitors Boeing with the F/A-18E/F, Dassault with the Rafale and Saab with the Gripen.

Even without further exports, however, an imposing Eurofighter fleet should enter into service over the next few decades, and naturally this will require improvements enabling the integration of new weapons (Taurus, Small Diameter Bomb, Meteor etc.) and adaptation to future operational requirements.One such item is the installation of an E-scan radar (an antenna with active electronic beam steering through over 1000 transmit/receive modules). As Eurofighter CEO Rauen puts it, “We are in serious discussions.” India is also interested in such a system, which would mean that the integration costs could be more widely spread. But according to Rauen, such a system needs to be reliable from the start and offer better performance than the present Captor.


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MessageSujet: Re: Eurofighter Typhoon !   Mer 24 Déc - 14:38

J'ai trouvé par Internet unes textes assez intéressants qu'ils parlent des capacités de cet avion. Ici je les partage avec vous.. Wink

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“Eurofighter Slays’Em!

I remember reading around two years ago about the prowess of Eurofighter over other aircraft. Well, this anecdote will probably ‘get out’ one day and concerns the visit to these shores in July of Indian Air Force Su-30s. The MoD said that it would not be putting Typhoons up against them as a one-on-one fight. This is general knowledge. However - it did happen and there is Head Up Display video to prove it. I don’t know how it came about - probably during some exercise.

Anyway, two relatively inexperienced Typhoon pilots returned with big grins on their faces. The Sukhois were ‘toasted’. All the Su-30’s air display antics came to nought - the Typhoons proved too nimble and too powerful for the Russian aircraft. The Typhoons were not ‘clean’ either. You can check with the MoD, but you probably already know the kind of answer you’ll get! (We did, and they wouldn’t - Editor).

The original article resulted in several letters of response about Typhoon versus the F-22. This cannot be confirmed or admitted officially, but during Typhoon’s visit to the USA in 2005, both aircraft were pitted against each other (unofficially, you understand). The F-22 could not be seen by the Typhoon pilot, but his electronic counter measures showed him that it was being ‘painted’ by his opponent. The Typhoon took appropriate ‘measures’ using self-defensive aids. But when it came to one-on-one combat, the Typhoon did the same kind of job as it did with the Sukhois. The F-22s could not ‘handle’ Typhoon close in and the Yanks were shocked!


It did not all go Typhoon’s way on this occasion but it was a sobering encounter for the Americans. Remember, on the F-22 much was sacrificed in terms of ‘fighter performance’ for stealth.

The first part of this letter, regarding the Sukhois, I have from first-hand experience, through the second part - about the F-22s - has come to me through the Typhoon grapevine. Fascinating, isn’t it? The Typhoon does appear to be a truly formidable machine - a machine feared by ‘other’ operators.
Name withheld via e-mail”

Feedback, Air Forces Monthly January 2008


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Through still a relatively immature platform, Typhoon has already proved to be a hard opponent to beat, so that when a two-seat trainer was bounced by two F-15s during an operational conversion sortie, the Typhoon pilot was easily able to outmanoeuvre his assailants and position himself for a simulated ‘kill’ against both. More recently, there have been repeated reports that two RAF Typhoons deployed to the US for OEU trials work have been flying against the F-22 at NAS China Lake, and have performed better than was expected. There was little surprise that Typhoon, with its world-class agility and high off-boresight missile capability was able to dominate the ‘Within Visual Range’ fight, but the aircraft did cause a surprise by getting a radar lock on the F-22 at a surprisingly long range. The F-22s reportedly cried off, claiming that they were ‘unstealthed’ anyway, although the next day’s scheduled two versus two BVR engagement was cancelled, and “the USAF decided that they didn’t want to play anymore”.When this incident was reported on a website frequented by front-line RAF aircrew a senior RAF officer urged an end to the conversation on security grounds.

“Focus Aircraft – Eurofighter Typhoon” by Jon Lake, pags 44-75, International Air Power Review Volume 20, AIRtime Publishing 2006


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MessageSujet: Re: Eurofighter Typhoon !   Mer 28 Jan - 18:15

Première fois où font face les avions Eurofighter vs F-16 dans des manoeuvres militaires. Twisted Evil :mars:

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The DACT (Dissimilar Air Combat manoeuvres) 2vs2 scenarios had to do with 4 sorties of air battle between solely 2 Greek F-16s and 2 German Eurofighters. Given the fact that it was the first time in history that such an air fight took place, we tried to learn from first hand the impressions of 341 Squadron pilots who were engaged in these scenarios.

So, as Captain K. Pazaras (a pilot with more than 1300 flying hours in the F-16s and 3 participations in ELITE ) mentioned to HAF characteristically:
“The air battle missions against the Eurofighter were a very positive experience for us. We had to face a type of aircraft with tremendous manoeuvrability and agility, both in dogfight and low speed, demonstrating an excellent capability of nose authority and, of course, demonstrating the advantages of its two engines increased power. You can understand immediately its difference from relevant engagements with 3rd generation aircraft. In many respects, the Eurofighter is an airplane… to admire in the air battle! Eurofighter brought me about the same feeling when in the past I was flying the A-7 against the F-16!”.

On the same line was also the impression of another Greek pilot, Captain G. Mihelis, who stood against the German Eurofighters having more than 1000 hours on the type [F-16]:
“It seems that (the Eurofighter) is an excellent aircraft in air battle. Of course, it is very difficult to face it in a dogfight, while it carries very good radar with long distance detection, releasing it from ground stations or airborne radar support requirements. The above in conjunction with the very good aerodynamic characteristics of Eurofighter, especially in low speed, its overpowered engine that in dry power (without afterburner) allows the fighter to surpass the Mach, constitute an airborne opponent who practically was requiring special effort and abilities from our side in order to face it effectively”.

Captain N. Printzios, without questioning the excellent impression made to the Greek pilots in their air fight against the two Eurofighters of Luftwaffe, expressed another parameter of this air fight, as he noted that:
“The relatively limited space we had in ELITE to move both in the horizontal and vertical plane, did not allow us to separate twenty to thirty miles in order to operate better. Consequently, in 1vs1 it is very difficult to face the Eurofighter. However, we have not tried bigger formations, for example 4 vs 2 with possibility to implement certain tactics, thus I cannot prejudge the outcome. In this specific case we have faced for the first time the Eurofighter in dogfight, that was something never happened before”…

Arrow Antonis Tsagaratos on exercise ELITE, Germany, July 2008, in the Hellenic Air Force Yearbook 2008


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MessageSujet: Re: Eurofighter Typhoon !   Jeu 19 Fév - 17:32

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AERO INDIA: Eurojet offering thrust-vectoring EJ200 for LCA

By Andrew Doyle

Eurojet is to propose a thrust-vectoring version of the Eurofighter Typhoon's EJ200 powerplant to meet India's requirement for up to 150 engines to equip the first squadrons of its indigenously developed Tejas light combat aircraft (LCA).

The Aeronautical Development Agency - which is leading development of the Tejas - is expected to issue a request for proposals in the next few weeks, pitching the EJ200 against General Electric's F414.

The Eurojet partner companies have been working on thrust vectoring nozzle technology for several years, lead by Spanish manufacturer ITP, which validated the concept during a series of bench tests. Eurofighter majority stakeholder EADS is equipping a cockpit simulator at its Manching facility to demonstrate the potential performance enhancements.

Thrust vectoring nozzle technology is being offered to the Eurofighter customer nations on the basis that it could significantly lower lifecycle costs by reducing fuel burn by "3-4% on an average mission" and extending the life of hot section parts, says Eurojet technical director Matt Price.

This is achieved by optimising nozzle shape throughout the flight envelope, and by eliminating the need for drag-inducing control surface deflections to trim the aircraft, particularly at supersonic speeds, where the aerodynamic centre moves aft, causing the nose to pitch down.

In addition, the technology can enhance agility, which could be of particular benefit to the Tejas as it is a delta-winged design that lacks canards.

EADS is leading the Eurofighter bid to win India's 126-aircraft medium multirole combat aircraft contest with the twin-engined Typhoon, and a deal to also equip the country's single-engined LCAs with the EJ200 would make the economics of establishing an in-country engine assembly line considerably more attractive.

The latest iteration of the Typhoon's flight-control system software has been designed to incorporate thrust-vectoring, and flight tests of the ITP thrust vectoring nozzle could begin within the next two years.

The flight-control system can be configured to use the thrust vectoring nozzle as an additional "control surface", boosting damage tolerance and reducing the risk of loss-of-control at low speeds, says Wolfgang Sterr, Eurojet engineering director EJ200/LCA. Furthermore, take-off distance for an aircraft such as the LCA could be reduced by around 20%, even in "hot and high" conditions, he adds.

Eurojet envisages a two-phase thrust vectoring nozzle flight-test programme, firstly using a twin-engine aircraft equipped with a single non-FCS-integrated thrust vectoring nozzle, followed by trials of the fully integrated system on both powerplants.

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MessageSujet: Re: Eurofighter Typhoon !   Ven 20 Fév - 13:33

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AESA And Typhoon

Everyone buying fighters wants an active electronically scanned array (AESA) these days, no doubt after reading Dave "Mr AESA" Fulghum on the subject.

But Eurofighter remains wary about the issue. The consortium's executives still stay that - for today - the mechanically scanned (M-Scan) Selex Captor beats any in-service AESA for the Typhoon's mission, even though Selex itself is ready to go with its Vixen range of AESA radars. A clue as to why they think that way emerged at the Aero-India seminar last week.

Discussing future technologies, Dr, Peter Gutsmiedl, senior vp engineering at EADS Military Air Systems, pointed out ways in which AESA could be integrated into Typhoon - one being the conventional fixed, canted antenna. They included an antenna with auxiliary side arrays, an azimuth gimbal and the so-called "swashplate" radar, a canted antenna on a rotating mount:



What's behind this thinking? A few years ago, Prof. John Roulston - former technical director at BAE Systems' radar division, now part of Selex - presented a paper in which he pointed out a limitation of AESA: at extreme scan angles the effective aperture decreases, and the performance of the radar (range, sensitivity and jamming resistance) declines as a result. So today's M-Scan has a larger field of regard than a fixed AESA, and better performance at the edge of the scan envelope.

This is important for Typhoon because the whole system - in the air-to-air regime - is influenced by air-combat simulations in which a fighter-to-fighter engagement could involve multiple MRAAM shots, followed by a supersonic turn to evade the adversary's fire and extend the F-pole - the distance between the launch aircraft and the target at impact. To do this, it's essential to have a radar that can continue to track the target and guide the missile as the shooter turns away.

The gimbal of a pointable AESA does not have to be anything like as fast as an M-Scan gimbal. The high-speed stuff, tracking a moving target, is still done electronically, with the gimbal moving relatively slowly to optimize the field of view.

Moreover, the electronic field of view is now added to the gimbal scan: the swashplate design shown here adds the 60-degree AESA limit to its 45-degree cant angle, to cover 105 degrees in all directions - a total 210-degree field around the nose.
By the way, the designers of the Su-35 think the same way, and the F-22 has space, weight and cooling provision for side arrays, but so far they have been deferred due to budget cuts.


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MessageSujet: Re: Eurofighter Typhoon !   Ven 20 Fév - 14:20

Combien coute un eurofighter?
Et combien de commande en tout pour cet avion de combat?
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MessageSujet: Re: Eurofighter Typhoon !   Ven 20 Fév - 14:44

AT 15 KHRYZANTEMA a écrit:
Combien coute un eurofighter?
Et combien de commande en tout pour cet avion de combat?
Merci pour vos réponse.

Salut AT 15 KHRYZANTEMA!! hadarat

Arrow Le prix d'un avion eurofighter est sur les 100-105 millions d'euros l'unité. À ce chiffre on devra ajouter le coût de l'armement utilisé, ainsi que l'introduction de quelques "extras" comme pourraient être les radars AESA par exemple. Wink

Arrow Les commandes de cet avion sont les suivants :

- Le Royaume-Uni: 232 avions.
- L'Allemagne: 180 avions.
- L'Italie: 121 avions.
- L'Espagne: 87 avions.
- L'Arabie Saoudite: 72 avions.
- L'Autriche: 15 avions.

Ceci fait un total de 702 avions. Wink

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MessageSujet: Re: Eurofighter Typhoon !   Ven 20 Fév - 15:36

Merci amraam pour ses infos ,il coute plus cher que notre RAFALE F3 de l'armée de l'air française. hadarat
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MessageSujet: Re: Eurofighter Typhoon !   Ven 20 Fév - 15:59

Le royaume-uni qui est partie prenante du programme F35 voudrait bien réduire sa participation au programme euro-fighter ,d'ailleurs en reportant certaines commande il a permis de satisfaire la demande Saoudienne plus vite.
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MessageSujet: Re: Eurofighter Typhoon !   Ven 20 Fév - 20:25

Ici je vous laisse un bon et intéressant documentaire sur la construction des avions eurofighter!! (Bien que Il est en Espagnol, je crois que le matériel graphique et visuel qui apparaissent dans les vidéos est assez intéressant.) Wink

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SALUDOS!! hadarat

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MessageSujet: Re: Eurofighter Typhoon !   Ven 20 Fév - 20:49

merci AMRAAM hadarat

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MessageSujet: Re: Eurofighter Typhoon !   Ven 20 Fév - 20:53

Effectivement très intéressant cette animation 3D, gracias AMRAAM.

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